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Time To Get Rid Of..
Topic Started: Feb 14 2010, 11:15 AM (972 Views)
the double m
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yup, let's sell them and buy kaka, messi and ronaldo.
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bluenosekev
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Feb 14 2010, 01:58 PM
11thhour
Feb 14 2010, 01:51 PM
Larsson hasn't been the same since we last went down. I have never seen anything in Mcfadden and would get rid of him.

I have to defend CJ, he is not a centre forward, I would love to see him playing off a bigger centre forward, since Cam has been at Blues he has been forced to play with his back to goal , This isn't his game, he needs to play facing goal and I think you will see a better player then, I don't think he is a natural goal scorer but his pace is a problem to defenders and if he could spend more time running on to balls into the box rather than trying to flick on , I think yo would have a better player . I think he was brilliant yesterday he chased everything and gave 100%, even working back down the chanels to support ridgewell when mcfadden  wasn't bothered.

Wide I do think we need other options come the summer and a centre forward.

I would try Jerome on the wing for one game and see how he does.

:LMAO:

Jerome a winger?

Funniest post I have read for ages!
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tony123
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Kev, i don't agree. They are still good enough for the stage we are at in our development. The contribution to the team ethic and their will to win still goes a hell of a long way to what we've done so far this season.


... the phrase ...They are still good enough for the stage we are at in our development.

is absolutely spot on...

:applause:
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morrisonisclass
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Feb 14 2010, 01:40 PM
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Feb 14 2010, 12:43 PM
No, Larsson needs to sign his contract and I think his form will inprove,Jerome needs better coaching and Fads needs a kick up the backsides sometimes. They are 3 of our better players.

They are NOT 3 of our better players..

Jerome will never improve, he has had long enough to improve!

McFadden wont get a kick up the backside as he is Mcliesh's fave!

Larsson's contract shouldnt matter, where is his pride?


:Blues:

Mate your a joke, we ae 8th in the premiership, in the quarter finals of the FA cup , and its only our first season back in the top flight!

Yet you stil seemt to find a reason to want rid of 3 players who have been regulars all season?
Give it a rest .
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morrisonisclass
Feb 14 2010, 02:21 PM
bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 01:40 PM
stevio11
Feb 14 2010, 12:43 PM
No, Larsson needs to sign his contract and I think his form will inprove,Jerome needs better coaching and Fads needs a kick up the backsides sometimes. They are 3 of our better players.

They are NOT 3 of our better players..

Jerome will never improve, he has had long enough to improve!

McFadden wont get a kick up the backside as he is Mcliesh's fave!

Larsson's contract shouldnt matter, where is his pride?


:Blues:

Mate your a joke, we ae 8th in the premiership, in the quarter finals of the FA cup , and its only our first season back in the top flight!

Yet you stil seemt to find a reason to want rid of 3 players who have been regulars all season?
Give it a rest .

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bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 02:09 PM
Jabber BCFC
Feb 14 2010, 01:58 PM
11thhour
Feb 14 2010, 01:51 PM
Larsson hasn't been the same since we last went down. I have never seen anything in Mcfadden and would get rid of him.

I have to defend CJ, he is not a centre forward, I would love to see him playing off a bigger centre forward, since Cam has been at Blues he has been forced to play with his back to goal , This isn't his game, he needs to play facing goal and I think you will see a better player then, I don't think he is a natural goal scorer but his pace is a problem to defenders and if he could spend more time running on to balls into the box rather than trying to flick on , I think yo would have a better player . I think he was brilliant yesterday he chased everything and gave 100%, even working back down the chanels to support ridgewell when mcfadden  wasn't bothered.

Wide I do think we need other options come the summer and a centre forward.

I would try Jerome on the wing for one game and see how he does.

:LMAO:

Jerome a winger?

Funniest post I have read for ages!

OK, it was a pretty stupid suggestion. :LOL:
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Francis No.8
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Feb 14 2010, 01:45 PM
Francis No.8
Feb 14 2010, 12:58 PM
Kev, i don't agree. They are still good enough for the stage we are at in our development. The contribution to the team ethic and their will to win still goes a hell of a long way to what we've done so far this season.

Ok.

But whats wrong in the summer going for better players?

Did you watch the game yesterday? Am on about performance wise not the result!

Same last week against Wolves!

In the summer better quality will come in, i have no doubt. Then its up to the guys you've mentioned to decide if they want to come on the journey or not. If not, they get replaced.
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Jabber BCFC
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Francis No.8
Feb 14 2010, 02:37 PM
bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 01:45 PM
Francis No.8
Feb 14 2010, 12:58 PM
Kev, i don't agree. They are still good enough for the stage we are at in our development. The contribution to the team ethic and their will to win still goes a hell of a long way to what we've done so far this season.

Ok.

But whats wrong in the summer going for better players?

Did you watch the game yesterday? Am on about performance wise not the result!

Same last week against Wolves!

In the summer better quality will come in, i have no doubt. Then its up to the guys you've mentioned to decide if they want to come on the journey or not. If not, they get replaced.

I have my doubts.
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garconsavage
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Feb 14 2010, 11:15 AM
Jerome, Larsson and McFadden..

All 3 need to be replaced in the summer,All 3 have there limitations and are not good enough,championship players is what they are! Lets move them on and get some better players in, a bit more quality!!!!


:Blues:


What's the weather like on the Planet Zog!!!!!!!!!!
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turunc
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Feb 14 2010, 01:21 PM
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Feb 14 2010, 01:58 PM
Ian
Feb 14 2010, 12:56 PM
bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 12:15 PM
Jerome, Larsson and McFadden..

All 3 need to be replaced in the summer,All 3 have there limitations and are not good enough,championship players is what they are! Lets move them on and get some better players in, a bit more quality!!!!


:Blues:

Jerome is 4 years into a 5 year contract, i cant see another club wanting him enough to cover our loss and he wont go to the championship even if one of the top teams in the fizzy league wanted him.
Face it were stuck with Jerome and only when he leaves will people admit how poor a player he is. The Jerome scenario is the same as the Clinton Morrison scenario we had on here. People refused to see just how rubbish he was until he left but people were completely divided on his ability. I look at Jerome and think he has never and will never be a striker of Premier league quality who deserved a 5 year contract.

Larrson is different though. I said on another thread of similar ilk that Larrson has the ability but is in a bad run of form. He has the potential to come good again and we have players to cover is position, Jerome is different completely.

Jerome signed a new 4 year contract a few months back.

Hes our best striker and how people can continually slate him is beyond me, hes led the line during the best run this clubs ever made in the top flight.......

:blink: No it was definately a five year contract Read me instead of guessing. To say he is best striker with 5 goals is not something we should be shouting from the roof tops its embarrassing, one goal in 4.4 games equates to 8 goals a season which is not good enough.

:blink: Ian, am I missing something here?

If a player is four years into a five year contract then Jerome would have one year left to run, however as your sarcastic link in your reply to the poster states his new contract signed in 2009 runs until 2014?

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dan_lesser
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Despite lots of shortcomings, both Jerome and Benitez are a large reason we are 8th in the league. We defend from the front, their hard work is imperative to the way we play. West Ham was a good example, whilst Philips is technically superior, he cant keep up the same work and his pace will not worry the other defences.

As noted above, they are part of where we are as a team at the moment. until we get quality on the ball throughout the side we need them.

From what I have seen, Michel may be one player to add that quality on the ball. He does not just move forward like all the other players do, he moves backward in to space to.

Something is missing in our coaching.
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tony123
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Our attackers are Benitez, Jerome, McFadden, Phillips, OConnor and Bent.

Now Phillips, OConnor and Bent may need to be replaced. If he brings in two strikers this just leaves us 4 strikers with only 1 substitute if a player gets injured.

For the life of me why would we get rid of Jerome if we want to consolidate in the prem given he has played a full part in keeping us in the top flight this season.

The time may come that Jerome cannot make the team but it wont be next season. Next season he will be an importnat player for us up front.

So when his contract came up for renewal the thinking went. We are going to need him for two years at least and he can do a job for us.

Only in 2011-2012 depending how well we do next season will his position come in any doubt. Given that we bought him when Solly and Co were in charge chances are how would have been a capable championship/prem player who would be able to provide us with years of service hence the 5 year deal.

It is only since Yeung has cane in ca we really say we can opt from someone better. But McLeish is trying to improve the squad NOT replace it. We must
keep our better players. You dont throw the babay out with the bathwater all the time. You build on your achievements.

Some fans want to offload good servants of this club like they were nothing.
Damien Johnson was a diamond for us yet a few on here seemed to forget this. Jerome has scored crucial goals - Anfield screamer.

When they put that shirt on a work hard and do well for us we owe them our respect. He is a part of history making side.

The player I most worry about is Larson as he doesnt see to be fully committed to BCFC at present. However is played on the right wing of the histiry making side and I cannot criticise him too much only be grateful for his contribution.

In the overall scheme of things the lads have been brilliant this season and we should be thinking about keeping them rather than get rid.

What is wrong with us?

If 1 or 2 do leave it should be with our thanks, blessings and cheers.




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Ian
Feb 14 2010, 12:56 PM
bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 12:15 PM
Jerome, Larsson and McFadden..

All 3 need to be replaced in the summer,All 3 have there limitations and are not good enough,championship players is what they are! Lets move them on and get some better players in, a bit more quality!!!!


:Blues:

Jerome is 4 years into a 5 year contract, i cant see another club wanting him enough to cover our loss and he wont go to the championship even if one of the top teams in the fizzy league wanted him.
Face it were stuck with Jerome and only when he leaves will people admit how poor a player he is. The Jerome scenario is the same as the Clinton Morrison scenario we had on here. People refused to see just how rubbish he was until he left but people were completely divided on his ability. I look at Jerome and think he has never and will never be a striker of Premier league quality who deserved a 5 year contract.

Larrson is different though. I said on another thread of similar ilk that Larrson has the ability but is in a bad run of form. He has the potential to come good again and we have players to cover is position, Jerome is different completely.

i wont i have been saying he is poor since last season
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bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 11:15 AM
Jerome, Larsson and McFadden..

All 3 need to be replaced in the summer,All 3 have there limitations and are not good enough,championship players is what they are! Lets move them on and get some better players in, a bit more quality!!!!


:Blues:

I think you are after a rise, if not, then you are a Silly and words fail me.
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Feb 14 2010, 10:49 PM
bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 11:15 AM
Jerome, Larsson and McFadden..

All 3 need to be replaced in the summer,All 3 have there limitations and are not good enough,championship players is what they are! Lets move them on and get some better players in, a bit more quality!!!!


:Blues:

I think you are after a rise, if not, then you are a Silly and words fail me.

M0r0n a banned word? :o
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No point in moaning now about it we cant replace them till the summer Eck aint stupid he know we need better quality players hence the bids in Jan for people like Pav and McGeady etc. Yes all 3 have done a job for us but agreed next season better players would probably need to be brought in.
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DEdblue
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Feb 14 2010, 01:39 PM
the squad is small enough without just getting rid, out of those three only Jerome would go for me, he is the only one who is not good for the team, he might have individual attributes but his reading of the game is so poor that he doesnt add to the team effort

I'm with you on this one..............
McFadden and Larsson would be dificult to replace unless you spend £5,mill on both
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Feb 14 2010, 10:50 PM
TheGreatSage
Feb 14 2010, 10:49 PM
bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 11:15 AM
Jerome, Larsson and McFadden..

All 3 need to be replaced in the summer,All 3 have there limitations and are not good enough,championship players is what they are! Lets move them on and get some better players in, a bit more quality!!!!


:Blues:

I think you are after a rise, if not, then you are a Silly and words fail me.

M0r0n a banned word? :o

so is @rse??? It changes it to 'Bottom'

Makes One sound very proper don't you know!!!

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Feb 14 2010, 03:36 PM
Ian
Feb 14 2010, 01:21 PM
n0166895
Feb 14 2010, 01:58 PM
Ian
Feb 14 2010, 12:56 PM
bluenosekev
Feb 14 2010, 12:15 PM
Jerome, Larsson and McFadden..

All 3 need to be replaced in the summer,All 3 have there limitations and are not good enough,championship players is what they are! Lets move them on and get some better players in, a bit more quality!!!!


:Blues:

Jerome is 4 years into a 5 year contract, i cant see another club wanting him enough to cover our loss and he wont go to the championship even if one of the top teams in the fizzy league wanted him.
Face it were stuck with Jerome and only when he leaves will people admit how poor a player he is. The Jerome scenario is the same as the Clinton Morrison scenario we had on here. People refused to see just how rubbish he was until he left but people were completely divided on his ability. I look at Jerome and think he has never and will never be a striker of Premier league quality who deserved a 5 year contract.

Larrson is different though. I said on another thread of similar ilk that Larrson has the ability but is in a bad run of form. He has the potential to come good again and we have players to cover is position, Jerome is different completely.

Jerome signed a new 4 year contract a few months back.

Hes our best striker and how people can continually slate him is beyond me, hes led the line during the best run this clubs ever made in the top flight.......

:blink: No it was definately a five year contract Read me instead of guessing. To say he is best striker with 5 goals is not something we should be shouting from the roof tops its embarrassing, one goal in 4.4 games equates to 8 goals a season which is not good enough.

:blink: Ian, am I missing something here?

If a player is four years into a five year contract then Jerome would have one year left to run, however as your sarcastic link in your reply to the poster states his new contract signed in 2009 runs until 2014?

Looks like a typo to me.
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Jabber BCFC Posted: Feb 14 2010, 02:58 PM

I would try Jerome on the wing for one game and see how he does

Big Mac has talked to CJ about that and tried him there....
The last time was when the vile beat us 5-1 and CJ was totally useless....
If he doesn't get his own way he sulks and just doesn't perform....
The problem is that wingers have to work continually and once they get the ball they know what is expected of them....
When they don't have the ball they have to track back....
Too much expectation and too much like hard work for CJ....
I agree that he has speed to die for which is perfect for a winger but he'd rather pass the buck and abdicate responsibility by claiming to be a striker and continually failing....
We need a new stat - chances missed when one on one with the goalkeeper.... :yellowcard:
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Feb 15 2010, 08:13 AM
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Jabber BCFC Posted: Feb 14 2010, 02:58 PM

I would try Jerome on the wing for one game and see how he does

Big Mac has talked to CJ about that and tried him there....
The last time was when the vile beat us 5-1 and CJ was totally useless....
If he doesn't get his own way he sulks and just doesn't perform....
The problem is that wingers have to work continually and once they get the ball they know what is expected of them....
When they don't have the ball they have to track back....
Too much expectation and too much like hard work for CJ....
I agree that he has speed to die for which is perfect for a winger but he'd rather pass the buck and abdicate responsibility by claiming to be a striker and continually failing....
We need a new stat - chances missed when one on one with the goalkeeper.... :yellowcard:

to be fair benitez would win that hands down...he was putting the one against wigan wide until the keeper deflected it in!
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I think some people have gone completely insane, why are some people complaining, for god sake its not like were bottom of the table 10 points adrift of safety get a grip. Some people down at the blues some days one blues player misses a pass and some people go mental and start having a dig, ill admit i have some digs sometimes, but get rid of Larsson McFadden and Jerome? Let me state some facts

1. In the last 20 games we have only lost two
2. Although sometimes Seb, Faddy and Cameron may go off the boil, if you get rid of them who do you really expect to buy, because last time i checked were not exactly challenging for the prem title or the champions league
3. These lads have give 100% for the whole of the season so far, and after our unbelievable run losing is inevitable, but the last few games weve gone and done over teams in the last minute, which to me shows these lads are willing to fight

and Finally we are 8th in the Table, and i think some people need a reminder of the players who got us there, Q FINALS HERE WE COME BOYS!!!
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Feb 14 2010, 01:21 PM
:blink: No it was definately a five year contract Read me instead of guessing. To say he is best striker with 5 goals is not something we should be shouting from the roof tops its embarrassing, one goal in 4.4 games equates to 8 goals a season which is not good enough.

You can be quite antagonistic, particularly for an admin, which is ironic seeing as you appear to be quite sensitive on occasion.

I think he was referring to the fact that Jerome is quite clearly not 4 years into any contract. Just accept you've made a mistake instead of pouncing.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly DJ....
And not everyone is saying get rid of anyone....
However....
If you take the Team we have and add one - just one - finishing striker who can last 90mins....
What difference would that make?
Just look at what Phillips achieves in 30mins against Wolves....
Against Derby, it was his shot that hit the post, rolled along the goal line and was finished by Ridge and he was only on for 25mins!

Since the beginning of this year we have scored (9) Goals in (9) Games:

CJ (1)
Benitez (1)
Phillips (2)
Ferguson (2)
Ridgewell (2)
Dann (1)

Strikers (4)
Midfield (2)
Defence (3)

Says it all really :break:
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